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Joe Blow played online casinos, but lost a lot money and then wasn't sure if he got cheated. Joe Blow hears about a new option.
He downloads the casino app for it. It's 1:30 am in Vegas on a Tuesday when he sends the app to the real land-based Golden Nugget Casino. He selects the option on the app to show him what slot machines are available on the floor. He is able to see progressive tallies and other pertinent information. He picks a machine at a progressive bank and it is confirmed that it is available.
Meanwhile at the Golden Nugget the actual selected machine blinks unavailable. It won't take money from the floor nor will the buttons work. But it begins playing as if by a ghost.
***So...
The idea is, Joe is playing an actual slot machine in Vegas, and is as protected by gaming regulations there as any actual floor gambler. He'll get all the same options as a real player. If the software is janky it is janky for real players.
Next benefit is for the land based casinos. Good chance all their machines on such a system will stay occupied even when there are not enough players in the casino to play them.
***btw, Joe Blow still lost all his money -- hey but that's the way it goes sometimes***
Thoughts?
AxelWolf

Joe Blow played online casinos, but lost a lot money and then wasn't sure if he got cheated. Joe Blow hears about a new option.
He downloads the casino app for it. It's 1:30 am in Vegas on a Tuesday when he sends the app to the real land-based Golden Nugget Casino. He selects the option on the app to show him what slot machines are available on the floor. He is able to see progressive tallies and other pertinent information. He picks a machine at a progressive bank and it is confirmed that it is available.
Meanwhile at the Golden Nugget the actual selected machine blinks unavailable. It won't take money from the floor nor will the buttons work. But it begins playing as if by a ghost.
***So...
The idea is, Joe is playing an actual slot machine in Vegas, and is as protected by gaming regulations there as any actual floor gambler. He'll get all the same options as a real player. If the software is janky it is janky for real players.
Next benefit is for the land based casinos. Good chance all their machines on such a system will stay occupied even when there are not enough players in the casino to play them.
***btw, Joe Blow still lost all his money -- hey but that's the way it goes sometimes***
Thoughts?

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Joe kamiko slot machines free play I can see some appeal if there was a live video stream or something. He would have to remain active or get booted off. People would be miffed if they were walking around a casino and half the machines were empty but not playable. They might need to keep it to a small section but that kinda defeats the purpose. That's why online casinos are so appealing to the casinos, unlimited machines.
I'm not sure how they get around the laws and get the different states to agree.
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ThatDonGuy
What makes an online-accessible machine 'on the floor' different from one that's hidden away somewhere, other than the fact that the hidden one can't be played by somebody actually in the casino when nobody wants to play it online? It seems to me that there should be a way to have both. A machine that's popular enough to be played online 24/7 is taking up valuable floor space.
The idea has possibilities, but I would make one change; when someone is playing it online, anyone can walk up to the machine and start playing it, at which point the online player is either (a) transferred to an identical machine, or (b) if none are available, told that the machine is not available at that time. You don't want to turn the 'walk-ins' away because their favorite machines are constantly in use by online players.
Also, I assume that doing this with anything close to full pay VP is out of the question, as otherwise the machine would be unavailable 24/7, in which case it might as well be in the back somewhere.
rxwine

]People would be miffed if they were walking around a casino and half the machines were empty but not playable.


I think if the system were automated, it could keep opening or closing machines to adjust for increased or decreased traffic. For instance if you only had 8 blazing 7s machines and 6 were already occupied by actual people it might not make the last two available to outside traffic. Whereas if it only detected 1 or two people playing and the overall traffic in the casino was slow it might let 4 or 5 be occupied by outside players. Those smart guys who write programming could work that out.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
beachbumbabs
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It's just software. Outside of licensing, it would cost the casino almost nothing to offer it online. The point is that it's a reputable brick and mortar casino, not an offshore unknown and perhaps untrustworthy entity.
The casino wouldn't have to lease a physical console from the distributor; just pay for x number of licenses per online slot title to provide a variety on their server.
I would guess the biggest hurdle would be to allow the game to be accessed across state lines. Next biggest problem would be validation and verification of wins. But overall, it's a cash cow waiting to be milked, if the US ever allows interstate gaming again.
The inroad could be OTB. They offer bets on displayed races in other states. But I think you still have to bet in person, whether by kiosk or teller on-site, rather than accessing via Internet or phone.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
rxwine

It's just software. Outside of licensing, it would cost the casino almost nothing to offer it online. The point is that it's a reputable brick and mortar casino, not an offshore unknown and perhaps untrustworthy entity.


It might sound crazy to do it the way I'm suggesting, except people sometimes need nudges with something familiar. Streaming video of a live machine you are actually playing may do that.
It's kind of like people play bingo at churches and are not really gambling??? Nudges.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
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Wizard
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Thanks for this post from:
I've broached on this in other threads, but I think it deserves its own thread. So, I'm rewriting my book, Gambling 102. Not just an update, but a complete rewrite. I am giving owners of the first edition a reason to buy the new one.
In my slot machine chapter I have a section on advantage plays in slots. These are things I don't actually do, so am going off of things I've heard here and there. That said, I welcome the AP's on the forum to give their comments, for which I'll be thankful for.
Quote: Gambling 102 -- Slot Machine chapter -- Advantage Plays sub-heading


  • Some slot machines have 'must hit by' jackpots. For example, a jackpot that must hit by $500. If you play these games only when they are very close to the maximum jackpot, the odds should be in your favor. However, some makers gaff their machines to usually hit when near the maximum value, so don't be tempted to play at game where the jackpot is 97% of the way to the top, when it may be programmed to rarely hit until it reaches 99%. For example, AGS machines with a 'must hit by $5,000 jackpot' seem to rarely hit below $4,990*.
    * Editorial note: I will endeavor to confirm this shortly.
  • Some machines guarantee a bonus when some kind of meter is full. Green Stamps is a good, although dated, example. In that game, the player earns green stamps as he plays. When 1,200 stamps are accumulated, he wins five free games. He can hoard books for up to five bonuses. If a player leaves with stamps in his books, then they remain on the machine for the next player. So, it is possible to find machines with over 1,200 stamps, ready to pay out a free bonus. Even if the stamps in the first book are close enough to 1,200, the odds would swing to the player's favor. There are other more modern games that are based on the same principle. However, I'm sworn to secrecy on which specific games, sorry.
  • Skill based slots also offer a possible advantage for 'skilled' players. These games have a skill-based bonus. The prize pools available in these bonuses will depend in part on the skill of the previous players who played. If they didn't do well at the bonus, it leaves more in the bonus bank for you to win. There should be some sort of meter on the game showing the maximum win and what you have to do to get it. In my limited experience, I find the skill level required in these games to be pretty low, so there usually isn't enough money in the bonus bank to be worth playing. However, with a lot of patience and time, there are ripe games to be found.
  • In any form of gambling, comps can be a function of play and/or how much you lose. There are various ways of tricking casinos into thinking you've lost more than you really did, some of which could be considered cheating, at least ethically, depending on the reason and method. With slots, if you know you are near a point where a bonus is triggered, because some meter is nearly full, then pull your player card out until you trigger and play the bonus. This way, you'll be playing the bonus off the radar and it will look to the marketing department that you lost more or won less than you really did.
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It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
FleaStiff
why not do a chapter on pumping oxygen into the casinos....
I've heard that here and there also.
Its either authoritative or its not.
Wizard
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why not do a chapter on pumping oxygen into the casinos....
I've heard that here and there also.
Its either authoritative or its not.


I've been saying for years that this is an urban legend. However, I had a cab driver after the Cher concert on Friday that put me to shame with Vegas trivia. This Vegas old-timer knew everything. Anyway, he swore casinos used to pump oxygen. He seemed to indicate that had something to do with how fast the MGM fire spread. Then again, Vegas cab drivers are probably not the best source to quote.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
FleaStiff

I've been saying for years that this is an urban legend.


Of course it is nonsense and always was nonsense.
My point was that your slot machine chapter should be based on
some sort of proof, facts, odds, or something other than you've heard
that meter slows down.
Wizard
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My point was that your slot machine chapter should be based on
some sort of proof, facts, odds, or something other than you've heard
that meter slows down.


I mean to confirm the comment about AGS 'must hit by' jackpots. Thus the editorial note.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
mamat

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why not do a chapter on pumping oxygen into the casinos....
I've heard that here and there also.
Its either authoritative or its not.

I had a friend who stayed up all night in Indian casinos when she didn't have the money to rent a room. She showed me some oxygen vents on the floor...where she would stand to help stay awake.
I don't know about Vegas.
WalterW
What's skill based slots, any examples?
If you download the free play, pull the card out, then play through the free play, does it trick the marketing department?
Zcore13

I had a friend who stayed up all night in Indian casinos when she didn't have the money to rent a room. She showed me some oxygen vents on the floor...where she would stand to help stay awake.
I don't know about Vegas.

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Lol. What makes them oxygen vents as compared to air vents. Many new casinos have air vents all over the floor to blow smoke up and away.
ZCore13
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FCBLComish

Lol. What makes them oxygen vents as compared to air vents. Many new casinos have air vents all over the floor to blow smoke up and away.
ZCore13


Of course there is oxygen coming from those vents. Also nitrogen and some other stuff. A little bit of pocket lint and some tobacco residue.
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KevinAA

What's skill based slots, any examples?
If you download the free play, pull the card out, then play through the free play, does it trick the marketing department?

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Nothing changes unless you go past the free play. Then you don't earn any points. It makes no sense to do that.

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